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+22RiniLuca sbiri Ocho Cinco ThePatriot NaotoDate takeo OneHandTeo lpoddighe Debborohh Piergiu74 brandonmarshall88 A-Rod il maria torrisone moss84 brax62 Panoramix Joe Cool The Stig Ape Maia juan13 Ponchia 26 partecipanti |
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brax62 Icona Del Forum
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Dom 15 Gen 2012, 16:20 | |
| - flao ha scritto:
Oddio, 4 Superbowl li han giocati...all' epoca...
appunto, quando giocavano all'aperto e il 90% di questo forum non era ancora nato | |
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Ponchia Admin
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mar 17 Gen 2012, 15:59 | |
| Brees su facebook: Exit meetings today. My heart hurts. I love this team | |
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Ape Maia Entità Ultraterrena
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mar 17 Gen 2012, 16:02 | |
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sbiri Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mar 17 Gen 2012, 20:12 | |
| Ho capito male o Wiliams, dico il DC, è andato ai rams? | |
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Ponchia Admin
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 20 Gen 2012, 07:42 | |
| - sbiri ha scritto:
- Ho capito male o Wiliams, dico il DC, è andato ai rams?
Steve Spagnuolo joins Saints staff | |
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Piergiu74 Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 20 Gen 2012, 09:34 | |
| Madonna mia che acquisto... | |
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Ponchia Admin
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 20 Gen 2012, 09:46 | |
| - Piergiu74 ha scritto:
- Madonna mia che acquisto...
Non so se esser contento o meno. So solo che, negli ultimi 3 anni almeno è stato l'unico a mettere letteralmente nella merda il nostro attacco. 10 punti concessi, 6 sack, 2 intercetti. Se poi è stato un caso o meno non lo so. | |
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Piergiu74 Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 20 Gen 2012, 09:48 | |
| Guarda che Spag è quello che ha costruito la difesa del SB 2008... | |
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Ponchia Admin
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 20 Gen 2012, 09:54 | |
| - Piergiu74 ha scritto:
- Guarda che Spag è quello che ha costruito la difesa del SB 2008...
Lo so benissimo. Williams è quello che ha fatto quella del SB 2009. Poi però ha fatto cagare. | |
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Piergiu74 Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 20 Gen 2012, 10:02 | |
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Ocho Cinco Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mer 25 Gen 2012, 17:10 | |
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Panoramix Icona Del Forum
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mer 25 Gen 2012, 17:12 | |
| La mia fede FIOM inizia a vacillare | |
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Ponchia Admin
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mer 25 Gen 2012, 17:16 | |
| Grazie amico... | |
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takeo Spaccajeans
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 02 Mar 2012, 11:34 | |
| Si ingarbuglia la matassa .... http://tracking.si.com/2012/03/02/report-saints-gm-mickey-loomis-sees-drew-brees-as-very-good-not-great/?sct=nfl_t2_a3
Onestamente faccio fatica a capire quante leve negoziali possa avere Brees: ha 33 anni, i Saints possono taggarlo pagandolo "solo" 14 milioni, gliene hanno offerti di più (chi dice 18 chi 22), ma molti meno di quelli che ha chiesto (pare 25). Capisco che Brees sia il re di New orleans, ma il buisness è business e a questo giro credo che drew abbia il bastoncino più corto.
Il tag renderebbe complicato x i Saints rifirmare Colston e Nicks, ma anche con un contratto a lungo termine penso sia impossibile trattenerli entrambi ...
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Joe Cool Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Ven 02 Mar 2012, 22:56 | |
| Zio mi aggiorni sulla breaking news? Cosa avete/non avete fatto? Cosa rischiate? | |
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NaotoDate Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Sab 03 Mar 2012, 11:38 | |
| After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons. Saints' 'bounty' program exposed The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a "knockout" hit and $1,000 for a "cart-off" hit, with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances. A memo sent to clubs throughout the league included a statement on how Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put up $10,000 cash as a bounty before a playoff game, a source familiar with the memo told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora. The memo also said Mike Ornstein, a noted marketing agent who has close ties to Saints head coach Sean Payton and has worked with him on projects in the past, put up money as a bounty at least twice. The program also entailed payments for interceptions and fumble recoveries, which also violates league rules against non-contract bonuses. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate discipline based on the investigation, the league said in a statement. "The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for 'performance,' but also for injuring opposing players," Goodell said in a statement released by the league. "The bounty rule promotes two key elements of NFL football: player safety and competitive integrity. "It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated. We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it." Goodell said the investigation began in 2010 after allegations were made that Saints defenders had targeted Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner and Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre during New Orleans' 2009 run to the Super Bowl. "Our security department interviewed numerous players and other individuals," Goodell said. "At the time, those interviewed denied that any such program existed and the player that made the allegation retracted his earlier assertions. As a result, the allegations could not be proven. We recently received significant and credible new information and the investigation was re-opened during the latter part of the 2011 season." The investigation found the program was funded primarily by players and at one time might have reached $50,000. The league also said that other defensive coaches in addition to Williams, now the St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator, were aware of the program. "I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, (Saints owner Tom) Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the 'pay for performance' program while I was with the Saints," Williams said in a statement released by the Rams. "It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again." The report found that Payton was aware of the allegations but did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program. The league also said that general manager Mickey Loomis at one time was directed to end the program once Benson was made aware of the league's findings, but he did not carry out Benson's directions. The memo released to NFL teams also found Loomis and Payton guilty of "conduct detrimental" to the league, La Canfora reported. "I have been made aware of the NFL's findings relative to the 'Bounty Rule' and how it relates to our club," Benson said in a statement. "I have offered and the NFL has received our full cooperation in their investigation. While the findings may be troubling, we look forward to putting this behind us and winning more championships in the future for our fans." The NFL Players Association released a statement in which it promised to look into the NFL's allegations. "Health and safety is a paramount issue to the NFLPA," the statement said. "The NFLPA was informed of this investigation by the NFL earlier today and will review the information contained in the league's report." The Saints have gained a reputation in league circles as a dirty team in recent years, and Vikings running back Adrian Peterson said this past season that the Saints targeted his high left ankle sprain. "I felt like it kind of got overboard," Peterson said at the time. "I got up and kind of got in his face. Thank God I was able to keep my composure." The Saints denied Peterson's claims. | |
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Debborohh Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Sab 03 Mar 2012, 16:15 | |
| Vergogna! Ridate indietro l'anello. Fate rigiocare a Favre il Superbowl! | |
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NaotoDate Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Sab 03 Mar 2012, 17:42 | |
| manning avrebbe gli stessi anelli del fratello e di ben | |
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Debborohh Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Dom 04 Mar 2012, 06:01 | |
| ho letto con calma: into the shit - Citazione :
NFL DISCLOSES FINDINGS OF INVESTIGATION
INTO VIOLATIONS OF “BOUNTY RULE” A lengthy investigation by the NFL’s security department has disclosed that between 22 and 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints, as well as at least one assistant coach, maintained a “bounty” program funded primarily by players in violation of NFL rules during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons, the NFL announced today.
The league’s investigation determined that this improper “Pay for Performance” program included “bounty” payments to players for inflicting injuries on opposing players that would result in them being removed from a game.
The findings – corroborated by multiple independent sources – have been presented to Commissioner Roger Goodell, who will determine the appropriate discipline for the violation.
“The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for ‘performance,’ but also for injuring opposing players,” Commissioner Goodell said. “The bounty rule promotes two key elements of NFL football: player safety and competitive integrity.
“It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated. We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it.”
The players regularly contributed cash into a pool and received improper cash payments of two kinds from the pool based on their play in the previous week’s game. Payments were made for plays such as interceptions and fumble recoveries, but the program also included “bounty” payments for “cart-offs” (meaning that the opposing player was carried off the field) and “knockouts” (meaning that the opposing player was not able to return to the game).
The investigation showed that the total amount of funds in the pool may have reached $50,000 or more at its height during the 2009 playoffs. The program paid players $1,500 for a “knockout” and $1,000 for a “cart-off” with payouts doubling or tripling during the playoffs.
The investigation included the review of approximately 18,000 documents totaling more than 50,000 pages, interviews of a wide range of individuals and the use of outside forensic experts to verify the authenticity of key documents.
The NFL has a longstanding rule prohibiting “Non-Contract Bonuses.” Non-contract bonuses violate both the NFL Constitution and By-Laws and the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Clubs are advised every year of this rule in a memo from the commissioner. Citing Sections 9.1(C)(8), and 9.3(F) and (G) of the Constitution and By-Laws, the memo for the 2011 season stated:
“No bonus or award may directly or indirectly be offered, promised, announced, or paid to a player for his or his team’s performance against a particular team or opposing player or a particular group thereof. No bonuses or awards may be offered or paid for on field misconduct (for example, personal fouls to or injuries inflicted on opposing players).”
“Our investigation began in early 2010 when allegations were first made that Saints players had targeted opposing players, including Kurt Warner of the Cardinals and Brett Favre of the Vikings,” Commissioner Goodell said. “Our security department interviewed numerous players and other individuals. At the time, those interviewed denied that any such program existed and the player that made the allegation retracted his earlier assertions. As a result, the allegations could not be proven. We recently received significant and credible new information and the investigation was re-opened during the latter part of the 2011 season.”
The additional investigation established the following facts:
1. During the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons, the players and other participants involved used their own money to fund a “Pay for Performance” program. Players earned cash awards for plays such as interceptions or fumble recoveries. They also earned “bounty” payments for “cart-offs” and “knockouts.” All such payments violate league rules for non-contract bonuses.
2. Players were willing and enthusiastic participants in the program, contributing regularly and at times pledging large amounts. Between 22 and 27 defensive players contributed funds to the pool over the course of three NFL seasons. In some cases, the amounts pledged were both significant and directed against a specific opposing player.
3. The bounty program was administered by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams with the knowledge of other defensive coaches. Funds were contributed on occasion by Williams.
4. Saints owner Tom Benson gave immediate and full cooperation to the investigators. The evidence conclusively established that Mr. Benson was not aware of the bounty program. When informed earlier this year of the new information, Mr. Benson advised league staff that he had directed his general manager, Mickey Loomis, to ensure that any bounty program be discontinued immediately. The evidence showed that Mr. Loomis did not carry out Mr. Benson’s directions. Similarly, when the initial allegations were discussed with Mr. Loomis in 2010, he denied any knowledge of a bounty program and pledged that he would ensure that no such program was in place. There is no evidence that Mr. Loomis took any effective action to stop these practices.
5. Although head coach Sean Payton was not a direct participant in the funding or administration of the program, he was aware of the allegations, did not make any detailed inquiry or otherwise seek to learn the facts, and failed to stop the bounty program. He never instructed his assistant coaches or players that a bounty program was improper and could not continue.
6. There is no question that a bounty program violates long-standing league rules. Payments of this type – even for legitimate plays such as interceptions or fumble recoveries – are forbidden because they are inconsistent with the Collective Bargaining Agreement and well-accepted rules relating to NFL player contracts.
Commissioner Goodell has advised the Saints that he will hold further proceedings to determine the discipline to be assessed against individuals and the club. This will include conferring with the NFL Players Association and individual player leaders regarding appropriate discipline and remedial steps.
The discipline could include fines and suspensions and, in light of the competitive nature of the violation, forfeiture of draft choices. Any discipline may be appealed as provided for in the Constitution and By-Laws and Collective Bargaining Agreement. Any appeal would be heard and decided by the commissioner.
Commissioner Goodell also advised the Saints that he is retaining jurisdiction and reserving his authority to impose further discipline if additional information comes to his attention.
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santanadotson Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Dom 04 Mar 2012, 17:55 | |
| - Debborohh ha scritto:
- Vergogna!
Ridate indietro l'anello. Fate rigiocare a Favre il Superbowl! solo per aver avuto l idea di mandare favre nella sedia a dondolo meritano un encomio altro che una sanzione | |
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brax62 Icona Del Forum
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Dom 04 Mar 2012, 19:14 | |
| sembrerebbe pratica comune di coach Gregg - Citazione :
- Matt Bowen, who also played for Williams in Washington, wrote about the bounty system in a column for The Chicago Tribune on Friday, saying that he didn't regret taking part in the program.
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Meanwhile, former Buffalo Bills safety Coy Wire told The Buffalo News that Williams promoted bonuses for injuring opponents while he was the head coach in Buffalo. "There was financial compensation," Wire told the newspaper, which also cited three other anonymous defensive players who confirmed the existence of a bounty program during Williams' time with the Bills. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7644139/nfl-reportedly-probe-washington-redskins-bounties | |
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il maria Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mar 06 Mar 2012, 08:14 | |
| LoZio sei vivo ?
aspetta a darti fuoco, che le cose possono tranquillamente peggiorare | |
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A-Rod Forumista Reietto
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brax62 Icona Del Forum
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mer 07 Mar 2012, 00:25 | |
| - il maria ha scritto:
- LoZio sei vivo ?
aspetta a darti fuoco, che le cose possono tranquillamente peggiorare cancellano anche la Bari adesso | |
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Ocho Cinco Idolo delle Folle
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| Titolo: Re: The Saints are Coming - World Champions 2010 Mer 07 Mar 2012, 08:53 | |
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